8 cores, 6 TeraFLOPs, Backwards Compatible with Xbox. Zen or Jaguar?!

Publish date: 2024-06-26

This news piece contains speculation, and suggests silicon implementation based on released products and roadmaps.The only elements confirmed for Project Scorpio are the eight cores, >6 TFLOPs, 320 GB/s, it's built by AMD, and it is coming in 2017. If anyone wants to officially correct any speculation, please get in touch. 

Here’s an announcement at E3 for you. Microsoft just announced Project Scorpio, an internal project to develop the next generation Xbox set to be released in 2017. Project Scorpio is to be backwards compatible with Xbox One, and seems to be directly in line to compete with whatever Sony are supposedly releasing in the near future. But here’s some specifications for you that has my mind in a twist.

In the presentation, Microsoft states that the Project Scorpio SoC will have eight cores, up to 320 GB/s of memory bandwidth, and over 6 TeraFLOPs of power. To put this into context, this is more processing power than the recently announced AMD RX 480 GPU using a GCN 4 based architecture, set to be launched later this month. Microsoft specifically announced that Project Scorpio is to be launched next year, which puts a few things together worth mentioning.

By this time next year, we expect AMD’s Zen microarchitecture to be in full swing, and AMD has already showcased a silicon sample of an 8-core Zen processor. However, the current Xbox line relies on AMD’s ‘cat’ core architecture, which according to current AMD roadmaps doesn’t seem to feature anywhere for 2017. Without a direct confirmation, it’s hard to tell if Project Scorpio is the same Jaguar cores as the Xbox One, or the newer Zen microarchitecture. I would assume we won’t find out until later next year.

Microsoft Console Specification Comparison
 Xbox 360Xbox OneProject Scorpio
CPU Cores/Threads3/68/88 / ?
CPU Frequency3.2GHz1.6GHz (est)?
CPU µArchIBM PowerPCAMD Jaguar?
Shared L2 Cache1MB2 x 2MB?
GPU Cores 768?
Peak Shader Throughput0.24 TFLOPS1.23 TFLOPS>6 TFLOPs
Embedded Memory10MB eDRAM32MB eSRAM?
Embedded Memory Bandwidth32GB/s102GB/s?
System Memory512MB 1400MHz GDDR38GB 2133MHz DDR3?
System Memory Bus128-bits256-bits?
System Memory Bandwidth22.4 GB/s68.3 GB/s320 GB/s
Manufacturing Process 28nm?

On the GPU side, the current Xbox One uses a 16 CU implementation in the SoC, with two disabled giving 14 CUs. We already know that AMD’s RX 480, running at 5 TFLOPs and built on Global Foundries 14nm FinFET process, runs in at 36 CUs. So Project Scorpio will have easily have more CUs than Xbox One, and judging by the shots in the video, the die size is relatively small. The Xbox One was built on TSMC’s 28nm HP process. At this point it’s still not confirmed if this is an AMD win, however judging by the comments towards backwards compatibility and SoC integration (where CPU and GPU are on the same silicon (or package)), all fingers would point in that direction.

AMD Radeon GPU Specification Comparison
 AMD Radeon RX 480AMD Radeon R9 390XAMD Radeon R9 390AMD Radeon R9 380
Stream Processors2304
(36 CUs)
2816
(44 CUs)
2560
(40 CUs)
1792
(28 CUs)
Texture Units(Many)176160112
ROPs(A Positive Integer)646432
TFLOPs (FMA)>5 TFLOPs5.9 TFLOPs5.1 TFLOPs3.5 TFLOPs
Boost Clock>1.08GHz1050MHz1000MHz970MHz
Memory Clock8Gbps GDDR55Gbps GDDR55Gbps GDDR55.5Gbps GDDR5
Memory Bus Width256-bit512-bit512-bit256-bit
VRAM4GB/8GB8GB8GB2GB
Transistor Count?6.2B6.2B5.0B
Typical Board Power150W275W275W190W
Manufacturing ProcessGloFo 14nm FinFETTSMC 28nmTSMC 28nmTSMC 28nm
ArchitectureGCN 4GCN 1.1GCN 1.1GCN 1.2
GPUPolaris 10?HawaiiHawaiiTonga
Launch Date06/29/1606/18/1506/18/1506/18/15
Launch Price$199$429$329$199

The memory bandwidth of Project Scorpio, 320 GB/s, is also relatively interesting given the current rates of the RX 480 topping out at 256 GB/s. The 320 GB/s number seems round enough to be a GPU only figure, but given previous embedded memory designs is likely to include some form of embedded memory. How much is impossible to say at this point.

AMD has stated that the RX 480 is a VR Gaming capable card, so given what we've said about the Xbox One S tackling VR, it's clear that Project Scorpio is right on the money. AMD's business plan as of late is to expand its custom SoC business, and thus sticking Zen and a GCN 4 based architecture on a combined package or die for Microsoft makes a lot of sense. At the RX 480 announcement, it was stated that AMD wants to power the first 100 million VR users, and this would help towards that goal.

It's worth noting that this news piece contains a decent amount of speculation based on knowledge of the market, and the only elements confirmed for Project Scorpio are the eight cores, >6 TFLOPs, 320 GB/s, and it is coming in 2017. If anyone wants to officially correct any speculation, please get in touch. 

Sources: Ars Technica (Carousel Image), Verge Live Blog (Video Screen Capture)

Additional: We can confirm that Scorpio will be an AMD based design, as expected.

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